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Mariah the Scientist joins Summer Walker to discuss touring, mental health, and more on Apple Music

By GRUNGECAKE INC
April 25, 2025 4 Min Read

Mariah the Scientist joins Summer Walker for Episode 6 of Over It Radio, where the two discuss their songwriting process, touring and mental health.

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Video | Summer Walker and Mariah the Scientist: Biology, heartbreak and touring | Over It Radio

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Mariah the Scientist talks to Summer Walker about going on tour with friends

Summer Walker: How was the tour when you was on it?

Maria the Scientist: I feel like sometimes when you make friends with somebody who also makes music, you like to assume that it’s like, “Okay cool…” And it is different for the boys. Maybe I’m always assuming this because all the rappers who are friends, the lines between working and playing have totally been blurred. They don’t even exist. They’re not insistent. With the girls, obviously we work, we play. All those things, but you assume, “Okay, cool. I’m going on tour with my friend. We’re going to be partying hard. We’re on the town.”

Summer Walker: What y’all do? Y’all just went to sleep?

Mariah the Scientist: We didn’t do a damn thing.

Summer Walker: It be like that.

Summer Walker: Where is your favorite place to perform, if you have one?

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Mariah the Scientist talks to Summer Walker about her favorite place to perform

Mariah the Scientist: My favourite place that I did was a tabernacle in Atlanta. I just love the Tabernacle. It’s just such a classic venue. I just always wanted to play that and they tried to ask me did I want to play another venue instead of doing two days there, and it was just like, “No, it’s the Tabernacle.” I just felt like it was so lit. I just loved everything about it.

Summer Walker: What do you love about it specifically?

Mariah the Scientist: I just love the architecture. I felt like when I was a child I used to, I probably wasn’t supposed to be in there, but there were sometimes I was in there breathing in the Zaza and the air and just seeing the lights come through, the smoke and just all those things.

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Mariah the Scientist talks to Summer Walker about what she is over

Mariah the Scientist: Feeling like I need to pull the receipts out, or I need to show the evidence or the proof that the other person is wrong. It’s like, let’s just let them be wrong. It’s okay. It’s okay. They wrong. So, I’m really over that. I’m saying I’m over it, but it’s a work in progress. You tell me what you’re over then I’m going to dig into my Rolodex and try to match your energy.

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Mariah the Scientist talks to Summer Walker about what she should be over but is not

Summer Walker: What is something that you should be over but you’re not?

Mariah the Scientist: I am a firm believer, give from the heart, not of the pocket or… Obviously that’s a little metaphorical but something like that. But I just feel like sometimes when you are giving it up, you’re giving it up. And you can’t wait on somebody to reciprocate it or you can’t expect something in return when you’re giving anything away. Whether it be like maybe it’s not necessarily something tangible, maybe it’s more internal thing or whatever the case may be. But I feel like once you do it so much, you’re doing it so much now it’s like you don’t even have… They’re not giving anything back for one and for two, you don’t even have anything to give yourself anymore.

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Mariah the Scientist talks to Summer Walker about the concept behind her next album

Mariah the Scientist: I will tell you. I’m going to tell you the concept.

Summer Walker: Okay.

Mariah the Scientist: The concept is a little green toy soldier. It represents being dedicated to a cause that you’re willing to die for, but you’re small and you’re a toy, and you’re not really taken seriously. I’m not going to sleep with a toy soldier in my room thinking it’s going to kill me tonight. It’s a joke, almost. And I feel like it’s a metaphor for the women. That’s how men see us.

Summer Walker: That’s really deep.

Mariah the Scientist: They see us like we’re going so hard for all of this shit, and it’s just like they’re just-

Summer Walker: You’re a fucking joke.

Mariah, the Scientist: They’re just doing it and we’re just like, “It’s nothing.” It’s a modern man’s war on love.

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